tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post1997800772629921581..comments2024-02-29T09:58:18.342+01:00Comments on The Swiss Ramble: PSV Eindhoven - Champions League Or BustThe Swiss Ramblerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11423088862174893998noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-69074346320620678262011-08-16T20:19:10.742+02:002011-08-16T20:19:10.742+02:00@Anon
The Portugese top teams have the advantage ...@Anon<br /><br />The Portugese top teams have the advantage of having a big network available to them in South-America. Back in the day it was not as common to sign players from South-America and PSV could sign incredible talents like Ronaldo and Romario. That would be unheard of today. However there is still a big range of talents available to the Portugese clubs. All those talents are far more likely to sign for a Portugese club because of the climate there as well as the language. Look at the big sales teams like Benfica and FC Porto have made over the recent years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-5376520466880798002011-08-05T18:38:58.795+02:002011-08-05T18:38:58.795+02:00Problem with getting an Atlantic League going is t...Problem with getting an Atlantic League going is that only a handful of Dutch clubs would be able to enter it (PSV, Ajax, Twente, AZ and maybe Feyenoord) - it will completely destroy TV revenues, gate receipts and commercial income for the remaining clubs. So the five big clubs find themselves outvoted every time.<br /><br />It's interesting that a Portugese club like Porto does so much better both on the pitch and in the books than Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord, while they face the exact same issues (smaller country, even less tv money) and run similar sized budgets. It seems that it's not completely impossible to make money as a feeder club in a small league.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-70116498181481519892011-07-31T16:52:34.383+02:002011-07-31T16:52:34.383+02:00Yet another great piece! compliments, I've sha...Yet another great piece! compliments, I've shared it within my network :-)<br /><br />I (as a PSV supporter) enjoyed reading itNiels Aartsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-70232722656008851372011-07-29T19:30:39.422+02:002011-07-29T19:30:39.422+02:00@Anonymous (6:56),
Ah, thanks for that. Typo now ...@Anonymous (6:56),<br /><br />Ah, thanks for that. Typo now corrected, though it's actually 1988.The Swiss Ramblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423088862174893998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-52483723328532952972011-07-29T18:56:55.303+02:002011-07-29T18:56:55.303+02:00"Hiddink, on the other hand, had been at the ..."Hiddink, on the other hand, had been at the helm during PSV’s glory years. In his first spell, between 1987 and 1990, he led the team to three league titles, three Dutch cups and, most memorably, the European Cup in 1998, when PSV beat Benfica on penalties after a 0-0 draw."<br /><br /><br />it's 1989 not 1998 ;-)<br /><br />love your blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-66264364813830715572011-07-29T17:45:41.354+02:002011-07-29T17:45:41.354+02:00Off topic: the idea of an Atlantic League might al...Off topic: the idea of an Atlantic League might already be a bit old-fashioned in itself, seeing last years Europa League's last 16 filled with the top clubs from Portugal (3), Holland (3) and Russia (3), and also Scotland (1) and Ukraine (1). The other five were non-top clubs from England, Germany, France and Spain. <br />Now, we all know that Nato is in search for a new future for itself, but Russia might not be part of that for the next few years. So the name Europa League might prevail for that Atlantic competition. <br />Rumors have it that Europe’s top teams are thinking of forming a new competition when the Champions League contract expires in 2014. The others will a) be hoping for an invitation (Porto, Ajax) or b) thinking of forming their own league.sandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-36364803529391465162011-07-29T15:46:34.428+02:002011-07-29T15:46:34.428+02:00As a Dutch Ajax fan I would love to see an Atlanti...As a Dutch Ajax fan I would love to see an Atlantic League. Ajax v Anderlecht, Ajax v Rangers. Sounds good to me, plus more money. I dont know why others are against.<br /><br />Great article as usual!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-71161965076124386712011-07-29T00:18:39.342+02:002011-07-29T00:18:39.342+02:00@sander,
OK, thanks. I've now edited and corr...@sander,<br /><br />OK, thanks. I've now edited and corrected that sentence.<br /><br />Nice last line ;-)The Swiss Ramblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423088862174893998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-38594861658828983142011-07-28T18:31:32.456+02:002011-07-28T18:31:32.456+02:00In july 2011 Heerenveen was not in the financial t...In july 2011 Heerenveen was not in the financial top flight any more. Your source, Swiss, is from august 2010. Heerenveen, by the way, is an excellent example of a club with a buying low, selling high strategy, with the likes of Van Nistelrooy (to PSV), Huntelaar and Suleymani (to Ajax), Alfonso Alves and Samaras to the Premier League, Pranjic to Bayern. Kuper and Scymanski mentioned this little club in their Moneyball equivalent. One time eredivisie runners up, several Uefa Cup attendances. The chairman quit after 20 years and the money is now spent. <br /><br />PSV of course plays at a different level. I think you hit the right button in your last paragraph, PSV outperformed for a long time (and didn't prepare for other times). Guus Hiddink used to say he'd like to buy at Champions League level. He got away with the high costs because he won them titles. Having to sell the parking lot, with also the places of the big chiefs, including former Philips CEO Timmer, opened their eyes, and they appointed Jan Reker to do the cleaning of the house. <br /><br />It was PSV's chairman during the successful times Van Raaij who long ago proposed an Atlantic League, including Portugal, also a football country with some quality clubs who like to play (and thus pay) at the top level but have to deal with a small commercial market, as you've pointed out in your Porto and Ajax analyses. <br /><br />A last word, characterizing PSV's CL ambition while being a provincial, or Boeren, club: with their first entrance in the CL, their program mentioned "Champignons League".sandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-39334735476675257402011-07-28T16:30:43.753+02:002011-07-28T16:30:43.753+02:00@Grolschtukker,
I must admit that I thought this ...@Grolschtukker,<br /><br />I must admit that I thought this was a bit strange, given the size of Heerenveen's loss in 2009/10, but I took the information from this source:<br /><br />http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/08/thirteen_not_12_football_clubs.php<br /><br />If you could provide me with a link with different information, I would happily update/correct.The Swiss Ramblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423088862174893998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-23527125755626095872011-07-28T14:31:53.256+02:002011-07-28T14:31:53.256+02:00"Only four clubs are deemed to be “financiall..."Only four clubs are deemed to be “financially secure”: Go Ahead Eagles, SC Heerenveen, Telstar and FC Volendam."<br /><br />This is not true. Heerenveen isn't financially secure. They are in categorie 2. FC Twente is, together with Go Ahead Eagles, Volendam and Telstar financially secure.Grolschtukkerhttp://www.fctwente.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-1198663564506620092011-07-28T14:06:54.869+02:002011-07-28T14:06:54.869+02:00Another outstanding disection.
Congratulations!Another outstanding disection.<br /><br />Congratulations!Adriaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18211996431474919685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-81710333180341583812011-07-28T13:48:56.226+02:002011-07-28T13:48:56.226+02:00as always, a joy to read, on a lighter note you co...as always, a joy to read, on a lighter note you could improve captions for photos, example "Balázs Dzsudzsák - Stay Hungary" lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-487486960623783530.post-84825419120282680812011-07-28T10:10:52.196+02:002011-07-28T10:10:52.196+02:00man you are the best ! no wonder you got that awar...man you are the best ! no wonder you got that award a month ago,,,keep up the good work matebokikohttp://www.kuwait.comnoreply@blogger.com